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	<title>Comments on: GAO Finds &#8216;Significant&#8217; Errors in U.S. Air Force Tanker Math</title>
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		<title>By: Preston Brady</title>
		<link>http://blog.lagniappemobile.com/2008/06/18/gao-finds-significant-errors-in-us-air-force-tanker-math/#comment-655</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.lagniappemobile.com/2008/06/18/gao-finds-significant-errors-in-us-air-force-tanker-math/#comment-655</guid>
		<description>I have looked over the skinny version of the GAO decision - note,
we the public will not be allowed to see the full decision because it
contains "secret" information. They'll produce
public consumption version soon.

The number one reason GAO provides for a rebidding the contact:


"The agency also did not take into account the fact that Boeing 
offered to satisfy more non-mandatory technical “requirements” 
than Northrop Grumman, even though the solicitation expressly 
requested offerors to satisfy as many of these technical 
“requirements” as possible."

Are we really that concerned about "non-mandatory" requirements?
Was the award heavy on that non-requirement? Doubtful.

The number two reason GAO gave was that the Air Force gave consideration
to the fact that NG could exceed requirements in aerial refueling, and 
that, GAO says, is not allowed. So if we listen to GAO whatever you do,
don't exceed what's being asked for. Just provide what the contract 
requires. We don't need the best, only what's required.

In their number 3 reason GAO takes on the role of refueling experts and
says the NG bid did not demonstrate that it could refuel properly
to the Air Force requirements. Who knows that better, white-collars in 
GAO or the Air Force?

Reason 4 is the worst. The Air Force thought Boeing had satisfied a key
performance requirement and supposedly indicated that to Boeing and later
determined Boeing did not meet that requirement. Supposedly Boeing was
not told later they did not meet the requirement . . meanwhile Northrop
Grumman was sailing along on that same requirement and the Air Force 
let them know they were. So NG looked at the bid requirements and met 
the one in question and Boeing looked at the very same bid but had to 
ask the Air Force whether they met the requirement? That's scary.

Number 5: The Air Force read as admin oversight in bid that NG did
not check off on a two year warranty maintenance on the tankers, but GAO
doesn't believe the Air Force. Are we really to believe NG would not
warrant the tankers and help maintain them for two years after 
construction? That's what GAO wants us to believe. GAO actually gave 
this as a major reason for recommending a rebid.

Number 6 is the math errors we've all heard about. This is where NG
was able to show the life cycle of their product would exceed the life
cycle of any competitors. But GAO said that was a "notion" that was
"hypothetical" and not "reasonably supported." 

Finally, number 7, GAO says Air Force improperly increased Boeing's
non-recurring engineering costs because Boeing couldn't explain
the costs. Apparently Boeing bid unbelievably low on this element
and the Air Force probably thought, yes, we've heard and been through
this before. What do aeronautical engineers get paid these days,
about $5,000 a year???
 
And GAO didn't like the Air Force's simulation model used to
determine Boeing's non-recurring engineering costs, didn't think it was
a reliable indicator of the costs.

Could it be the Air Force just didn't buy Boeing's bid, that they
knew their shoulder would be cried upon by Boeing in a few years
that they needed more money to complete the contract because of
"extenuating" circumstances?

What a sheepish, "hypothetical" decision by GAO. It's got the legs
of a new born goat. I urge the Air Force to publicly thank GOA
for their four month long pouring over decision and their
seven "shocking" key point decision, but our original decision
to award NG remains intact. 

Don't wait 60 days either, do it
tomorrow.




Is that all GAO's got, those seven points? I sure hope the Air Force
are as strong as I think they are and move forward with this award
to Northrup Grumman. 
a year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have looked over the skinny version of the GAO decision - note,<br />
we the public will not be allowed to see the full decision because it<br />
contains &#8220;secret&#8221; information. They&#8217;ll produce<br />
public consumption version soon.</p>
<p>The number one reason GAO provides for a rebidding the contact:</p>
<p>&#8220;The agency also did not take into account the fact that Boeing<br />
offered to satisfy more non-mandatory technical “requirements”<br />
than Northrop Grumman, even though the solicitation expressly<br />
requested offerors to satisfy as many of these technical<br />
“requirements” as possible.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are we really that concerned about &#8220;non-mandatory&#8221; requirements?<br />
Was the award heavy on that non-requirement? Doubtful.</p>
<p>The number two reason GAO gave was that the Air Force gave consideration<br />
to the fact that NG could exceed requirements in aerial refueling, and<br />
that, GAO says, is not allowed. So if we listen to GAO whatever you do,<br />
don&#8217;t exceed what&#8217;s being asked for. Just provide what the contract<br />
requires. We don&#8217;t need the best, only what&#8217;s required.</p>
<p>In their number 3 reason GAO takes on the role of refueling experts and<br />
says the NG bid did not demonstrate that it could refuel properly<br />
to the Air Force requirements. Who knows that better, white-collars in<br />
GAO or the Air Force?</p>
<p>Reason 4 is the worst. The Air Force thought Boeing had satisfied a key<br />
performance requirement and supposedly indicated that to Boeing and later<br />
determined Boeing did not meet that requirement. Supposedly Boeing was<br />
not told later they did not meet the requirement . . meanwhile Northrop<br />
Grumman was sailing along on that same requirement and the Air Force<br />
let them know they were. So NG looked at the bid requirements and met<br />
the one in question and Boeing looked at the very same bid but had to<br />
ask the Air Force whether they met the requirement? That&#8217;s scary.</p>
<p>Number 5: The Air Force read as admin oversight in bid that NG did<br />
not check off on a two year warranty maintenance on the tankers, but GAO<br />
doesn&#8217;t believe the Air Force. Are we really to believe NG would not<br />
warrant the tankers and help maintain them for two years after<br />
construction? That&#8217;s what GAO wants us to believe. GAO actually gave<br />
this as a major reason for recommending a rebid.</p>
<p>Number 6 is the math errors we&#8217;ve all heard about. This is where NG<br />
was able to show the life cycle of their product would exceed the life<br />
cycle of any competitors. But GAO said that was a &#8220;notion&#8221; that was<br />
&#8220;hypothetical&#8221; and not &#8220;reasonably supported.&#8221; </p>
<p>Finally, number 7, GAO says Air Force improperly increased Boeing&#8217;s<br />
non-recurring engineering costs because Boeing couldn&#8217;t explain<br />
the costs. Apparently Boeing bid unbelievably low on this element<br />
and the Air Force probably thought, yes, we&#8217;ve heard and been through<br />
this before. What do aeronautical engineers get paid these days,<br />
about $5,000 a year???</p>
<p>And GAO didn&#8217;t like the Air Force&#8217;s simulation model used to<br />
determine Boeing&#8217;s non-recurring engineering costs, didn&#8217;t think it was<br />
a reliable indicator of the costs.</p>
<p>Could it be the Air Force just didn&#8217;t buy Boeing&#8217;s bid, that they<br />
knew their shoulder would be cried upon by Boeing in a few years<br />
that they needed more money to complete the contract because of<br />
&#8220;extenuating&#8221; circumstances?</p>
<p>What a sheepish, &#8220;hypothetical&#8221; decision by GAO. It&#8217;s got the legs<br />
of a new born goat. I urge the Air Force to publicly thank GOA<br />
for their four month long pouring over decision and their<br />
seven &#8220;shocking&#8221; key point decision, but our original decision<br />
to award NG remains intact. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t wait 60 days either, do it<br />
tomorrow.</p>
<p>Is that all GAO&#8217;s got, those seven points? I sure hope the Air Force<br />
are as strong as I think they are and move forward with this award<br />
to Northrup Grumman.<br />
a year?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Poor</title>
		<link>http://blog.lagniappemobile.com/2008/06/18/gao-finds-significant-errors-in-us-air-force-tanker-math/#comment-649</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Poor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.lagniappemobile.com/2008/06/18/gao-finds-significant-errors-in-us-air-force-tanker-math/#comment-649</guid>
		<description>Wonder if there will still be a parade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder if there will still be a parade.</p>
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